alice simpson is the republican, bowls the investment banker former chief of staff for bill clinton. they want to cut social security and medicare. they were doing a presentation and a heckler busted it. >> pay your fair taxes. america wants to know. pay your fair taxes. >> go ahead and address this point. >> excuse me. >> we agree. >> if you look at where the tax expenditures paid, they're generally paid by people in the upper income brackets. >> that's absolutely not true. we have major corporations and you're part of that that are not paying their fair share. $2 trillion in the last 10 years. cenk: now, look, i'm not a big fan of heckling, but i believe on the facts they were right. the corporations are avoiding giant amount of taxes but we're going after social security and medicare as big pat of the cuts. bowls explains. >> there's no business in the country that makes its cuts across the board. you go in there and you try to surgically cut those things that have the least adverse effect on productivity, second you're cutting those areas where we need to invest, education infras